Since retiring, play deprived Douglass works hard at doing nothing. He finds that interplay complements his meditation and Non Violent Communication (NVC) practices. Doug co-leads life practice and men's retreat weekends in Washington DC. With more practice he hopes to have fun playing.

Mike used to try to gain love and acceptance by following the rules. Then when he went to an InterPlay retreat, he noticed that the other participants brought something else to their lives. They were allowing themselves to be guided by their bodies. Now when he leads InterPlay forms, he seeks to create an environment that allows participants to have whatever experience their bodies want or need to have at that moment.